Preparing For Malaga

7 May
Hmmm, nice booty Karanka!

Hmmm, nice booty Karanka!

I’ve been in meetings for 8 hours straight today. I feel like my brain is about to ooze out of my head. Lucky me, I get to take home a 75 page information architecture document to review tonight. Good times fun! That said, this time next week, I’ll be about to board a flight to Mexico with watishista P for 5 days of rest & relaxation. I’ll be watching that Copa Del Rey final from the beach with a margarita in my hand. Hurrah! Let’s hope I last that long.  The boys had their final training before meeting Malaga tomorrow. 

Castilla defender Fabinho joined the big boys (and got a call up!) while Sese, Marcelo & Arbeloa continued with their recovery work. Sami trained inside.

And now we get to Mou’s presser which was very controversial (to some people). I’m just going to say this straight up: You’re welcome to share your thoughts on this but do not lose your shit in the comments. Remember to keep the discussion civil and intelligent. You want to go on a name calling rant, start your own blog. I have a headache the size of a continent as it is and I’m in a scorched earth kinda mood. If people work themselves into a froth, I will lock the comments. There is going to be a lot of view points on this. So be polite. As our beloved Nerd Trivia hosts (at our pub) always say: “Rule #1: Don’t be dick.” Words to live by,  indeed.

Mourinho: “Malaga is dangerous and if we don’t play to the best of our ability we will have a hard time”
by Alberto Navarro

“It’s worth it to try to win these two home matches and finish the season undefeated because it would be good for the squad to start next season with this important capital in the Bernabeu”, added the Real boss

José Mourinho spoke to the media in a pre-match interview held in the Ciudad Real Madrid’s press room. The Portuguese coach, who said that “Diego Lopez, Nacho, Varane, Albiol and Coentrão” will start in tomorrow’s match, analyzed the team’s 36th fixture of the season tomorrow against Malaga. “Malaga are a dangerous team and if we don’t play to the best of our ability we will have a hard time. They’re a very good team and they play as a group. They’re solid on defence, they have a great attack and they can create a lot of danger, especially on the counterattack. If we don’t take it seriously this is a game we could lose”.

Rueda_de_prensa_de_Mourinho (5)The coach gave the names of the goalkeeper and defenders who will start in tomorrow’s match against Malaga: “Diego Lopez, Albiol, Varane, Nacho and Coentrão will play. I like the way Nacho is playing and he’s starting because he’s in good place in his evolution. To me Varane is the future of Real Madrid’s central defence along with Ramos. Albiol deserves it and I’ve got confidence in him. Coentrão will play because I don’t have another option and Diego Lopez as well because he’s the best option that I think we have in the goal”.

Rueda_de_prensa_de_Mourinho (4)Mourinho also spoke about Real Madrid’s spectacular season in the Santiago Bernabeu, a ground where they’ve yet to lose a game this season between all official games played: “None of the big European teams has ever done it. If they don’t lose in the Cup, they’ve lost a home game in the Champions or league. Every team has lost a home game and we’ve got two left to play in La Liga to finish the year undefeated. It’s not an extremely important objective, but it’s worth it to try to win these two home matches and finish the season undefeated because it would be good for the squad to start next season with this important capital in the Bernabeu”.

Rueda_de_prensa_de_MourinhoWhen asked about the substitution of Casillas, Mourinho replied: “I’m a football coach and that’s what I was hired to do. One of my duties is to choose who plays and I can assure you that I don’t base it on a coin toss. For hours I think about, discuss, analyze and study my decisions and I try to decide with my head. I like Diego Lopez as a goalkeeper more than Casillas. It’s not personal, I just like him more. I like a goalkeeper that comes out and dominates the airspace and plays with his feet. Iker is fantastic under the posts and I can also say that he likes a coach like Del Bosque or with adifferent profile more. One’s more offensive, the other defensive…I have the right to say this and with me, in normal conditions, Diego Lopez is going to play. People can say what they want, I accept that but please respect a coach who decides who plays”.

Rueda_de_prensa_de_Mourinho (2)Regarding the signing of Diego Lopez, the coach said: “I wasn’t forceful enough to bring him here before and it’s my fault, not the club’s. I accepted the club’s reasoning and I wasn’t strong and persuasive enough to get what I wanted. I have no issues with the club in this regard”.

Mourinho-_-El_Mýlaga_es_peligroso_y_si_no_jugamos_a_tope_serý_difýcil-Asked about the recent statements from Pepe and Iniesta, Mourinho said: “Iniesta is free to say what he thinks, despite the fact that I think he should worry about himself and worry about how his team is so different when Messi doesn’t play that they did what they did in the Champions semi-finals without this great player. Pepe’s problem is easy to analyze. His name is Varane. You don’t have to be a genius, just a normal guy like me to understand that we’re talking about frustration. It’s not easy for a player to see how he’s outperformed by a 19 year-old kid, but the kid is fantastic. I had the courage to play him and the problem is very simple. Pepe’s life as an athlete has changed. He was permanent starter and it is also one of my decisions that didn’t lead to a public discussion. I understand his frustration perfectly, and that it translated into what he said. Things are clear and I have no issue with him. It’s not an easy situation. I have to try to be honest and most people think that Real Madrid’s defensive future is Varane and Ramos”.

Rueda_de_prensa_de_Mourinho (3)Mourinho was emphatic when asked about whether he was considering quitting or forcing his exit from the club: “I’ve considered staying. The fans think what you, the press, sell them. To make things clear I’ll tell you that I’ll be paid until my last working day here. I don’t want even one euro more the day I decide that I’m not going to continue”.

Rueda_de_prensa_de_Mourinho (1)To conclude, when asked if he felt betrayed, Mourinho said: “I don’t feel betrayed by anyone. I feel good, normal, and I also understand perfectly that the world of football differs little from society. When society is transforming and going in other directions than at the beginning, in this case directions that aren’t in my direction, it’s normal that there’s hypocrisy in football as well. I feel good and ready to work. You always have your friends and when they say that I talk on the phone to Chelsea players that’s not how it is. I talk to a lot of players from many teams because I have friends throughout the world of football. It’s not a concern”.

The following players were called up for tomorrow’s match:

Goalkeepers: Casillas, Diego López and Adán.
Defenders: Varane, Albiol, Coentrão, Carvalho, Nacho and Fabinho.
Midfielders: Kaká, Özil, Xabi Alonso, Essien, Modric, Callejón and Di María.
Forwards: Cristiano Ronaldo, Benzema and Higuaín.

Four of out players took place in a clinic today which saw lucky winners train with the team.

Clinic_Coca-Cola (1)FROM REALMADRID.COM

Diego López, Modric, Higuaín and Morata, starred in a Coca-Cola event

The four first-team players took part in a training day as part of the ‘Why not get moving?’ campaign against obesity and inactivity

Clinic_Coca-Cola (7)Diego López, Modric, Higuaín and Morata were the stars of a Coca-Cola event which took place in the Real Madrid Football City as part of the ¿Y si nos levantamos? campaign, which the soft-drinks company is running to fight obesity and inactivity with the aim of promoting a healthy life-style. The four first-team players took part alongside the winners from the gigaphoto, a 360 degree image which was made during several la Liga matches, in some training exercise which were followed by a short match.

Clinic_Coca-Cola (2)Clinic_Coca-Cola (4)The four players made suggestions to be more active. Diego López pointed out that one of the best ways is to “play, and be with your friends in the street or in the park, either playing football or some other sport” and also to “forget about the TV a bit and take some actions for a positive future”. Morata said: “from when you are young you should play sports because it is a healthy way of having fun and it is important to be in good shape and so be happier”. Modric said that it is important to play sports because “it is healthy, you feel good, you can make friends and it is important for your health” and Higuaín pointed out that to have a more active life-style “you have to play sports; it is the best thing there is”.

Clinic_Coca-Cola (3)Clinic_Coca-Cola (5)The prize winners put on their shorts and practised shots on goals and then other exercises before having a great time playing with the Madrid players, who they were on the same teams as on the pitch. The event had a great footballing atmosphere and was also great fun, and was enjoyed by the players and fans. It finished with a group photo and with the footballers signing autographs and having their photographs taken with the participants.

The boys are off to the Mirasierra Suites for concentracion now. Can’t wait for tomorrow’s match!

HALA MADRID!

– Lozil

75 Responses to “Preparing For Malaga”

  1. CinematiqueChic May 7, 2013 at 6:46 pm #

    This whole day has been a major madridista headache. I’ve liked Mou the entire time he’s been with us and think he’s done so much for the club, but his behaviour since the semi final has been childish. Whatever is going on behind closed doors, he seems happy to make it public, first with Iker (not his comments from this press conference but from the other day) and then with Pepe. I think him going after the players like that is too far. And yes I know Pepe spoke up first, but what is the purpose of escalating it? The whole thing is just nasty, and I fear that it’s gone so far that whether he stays or goes is almost irrelevant at this point, because the fallout will continue.

  2. Anna May 7, 2013 at 7:45 pm #

    “The fans think what you, the press, sell them”. I personally find this a little insulting. Most of us here at HB & HB have spent the whole season rolling our eyes at half the bull the press has had to say, I’ve seen it in posts and comments, so we’re not that gullible.

    I also think since the CL exit, there have been a lot of digs in interviews. All I have to say is that I really don’t like the drama surrounding the club at the moment. Mourinho needs to learn the difference between being honest and being hurtful – I don’t know about how Iker or Pepe feel, but I feel pretty upset for them both.

    I don’t envy your 8 hour meetings Lozil, but I’m super jealous you’re off to Mexico!

  3. Jana May 7, 2013 at 7:47 pm #

    For some reason, I find Mou’s blunt honesty refreshing. He definitely seems to be using a ‘balls on the table’ approach since the Champions League, but hey–maybe for him enough is enough and he just has to say what he feels is the truth. I mean… I read that Iniesta comment, and thought–‘exactly’. I’ve not heard what Pepe said towards Mou, but his comment about Pepe–I mean Varane is a great player, so why not play the better defender? Sometimes real talk is tough.

    Not sure what the deal still is about Casillas–it seems like if he had the option, Casillas would be out of RM completely, even if it meant Adan being #2 (which that boy deserves more chances as well). But I’m interested in this–he seems to be endorsing Ramos a lot. I would’ve of thought this might be the opposite if he’s putting it all out there, especially given Ramos/Casillas’ closeness. Interesting. Love Ramos, but he seems like he can play some good politics. Something I’ve noticed this past season. Or maybe Mou just respects his skills! Who knows!

    Just my two cents.

    • CinematiqueChic May 7, 2013 at 9:12 pm #

      The problem isn’t Mou benching Pepe, it’s that Pepe basically said that Iker is one of the greats of Madrid and Spain and deserves to be treated with respect – and he wasn’t even talking about benching, he was talking about Mou’s entirely unnecessary comments about Iker. Mourinho hit back by implying that Pepe is just personally angry because he isn’t getting as much playing time. Which is a crap thing to do. Being honest with your players is great, but do it to their faces, not to the press. He has every justification for playing Lopez and Varane, so there’s no need at all to make it personal, which is what he’s doing.

      • Jana May 7, 2013 at 9:35 pm #

        Ahh–that comment. Ok, I did read that statement from Pepe. And I completely agree with him. Casillas, if anything, deserves respect as a person. If that was what Mou was lashing back at Pepe for, going after Pepe in that manner was not the best way to do that. I like Mou and his honesty, but the fight’s fair when it’s fire with fire…a la that Iniesta comment. No hate towards the kid or Barca, but that was just a great reply.

        • Laryssa May 7, 2013 at 11:03 pm #

          Honestly, I think Pepe’s comment was a little opportunistic and I think that, and not the comment itself, which infuriated Mourinho. Remember when people started called Pepe “assassin” and demanded that he never play for our team again? Mourinho was the only one that really defends him. Iker kept a “classy silence” at that time, despite the fact that he is the Captain, because that’s what he always does: he keeps a “classy silence”. But Mourinho defends Pepe against all. And now, on the bench because of Rafa (that is awesome!!! The kid is amazing!!!), Pepe begings to feel that Iker is being disrespected… I think Mourinho felt betrayed!

          • Jana May 8, 2013 at 12:05 am #

            I can see how Mou could’ve felt the dig was at him and felt defensive about it. I just read over Pepe’s actual statement to see if there was ill intent, and I can’t read it that way though. I think in terms of asking for respect for Iker, it might’ve been a general statement, such as people in general should have more respect, not Mou in particular.

            Pepe said: “Iker is well loved. What the coach said was not the most appropriate. Iker is a player who is part of Madrid. He’s an institution, both in this club and in Spain.”–In response to Mou saying he wished he signed Lopez sooner. Haha, gotta love that honesty. And the media had a field day with that one, no? I mean come on, Mou, you walked right into that one…

            Maybe it was a dig at Mou, maybe Pepe was just being honest…but you’re right Mou felt like he had to speak his piece about Pepe either way.

            I’m loving this conversation by the way! Curious what others think about what the hell is going on right now in RM world.

            • Laryssa May 8, 2013 at 8:43 am #

              And of course, the reaction of Mourinho was worthy of a small child … 🙂

  4. Katie Ann May 7, 2013 at 9:42 pm #

    I don’t know what to think right now. I’ve been an athlete and I’ve butted heads with my coaches; I’m a coach now, and sometimes my athletes butt heads with me… so I kind of sympathize with everyone a little… I also continually have to remind myself that none of us know what goes on outside the press’ hearing, and I’m sure that’s a lot… But my love for Iker Casillas- he’s been my idol since I was 17- tends to override all of this logical thinking. So… I give up thinking, heh. Give me summer.

    • shiggers May 8, 2013 at 2:33 pm #

      Couldn’t agree more. I’ll join you in giving up thinking. Makes everything so much better easier.

  5. futbolfan May 7, 2013 at 9:55 pm #

    You know what, Mou made our team a TEAM when he came. It sure as heck wasn’t one before, and I’m not sure what has allegedly happened since to cause so much drama, but I still want La Decima with Jose.

    I know many people are going to be praising Iker for keeping a “classy silence” or whatever about this issue, and that Mou has been seemingly blabbing on about it, but here’s my take: Iker doesn’t have to deal with being written about everyday and asked every few days in the press conferences why he’s such a freaking failure, why everyone hates him, why he’s such a douche, and why he’s such a horrible coach. Mou does. I’m not totally happy with what Mou’s been saying lately, but just as a human being under that pressure, that stuff’s got to get to you, right?

    And honestly, players have to respect the coach. That’s just that. Mou has dealt with bigger egos than on our team without many problems. Nobody knows if there is really anything going on, and we’ve seen coaches do much worse to their players than Mou has “done” to ours(Mancini anyone? Fergie boot to Beckham’s head anyone?), and yet people see only him as a devil because he chooses to play a goalkeeper whose been saving our ass for months now. BTW, I absolutely love Iker and he will always be our capi, but what’s wrong with thinking that at least currently, Diego is a better keeper? Is it a sin to have an opinion? Oh wait, for Jose Mourinho: yes, it is.

    And yeah, he’s honest. He’s not making any of this shit up. He’s just got enough balls to say them.

    • futbolfan May 7, 2013 at 9:56 pm #

      Wow, sorry….that was long…

      • Jana May 8, 2013 at 12:07 am #

        I personally enjoying this thread, so don’t apologize. 🙂

    • Camilla May 8, 2013 at 12:10 am #

      Absolutely agree with you… I am very happy with Mou as our coach, he has achieved much more than some of our previous coaches. I disagree with Pepe and the whole institution thing; the institution is REAL MADRID, not the coach or a player, Iker is a player (being cold and rational, eventually we would have to find someone else). Diego is doing a good job, let him work.
      As fans of the team, I think we should be very happy. We are on right track to La Decima (of course a little change here and there will do the trick, like playing all games like we did with on the second leg of both Copa del Rey and CL semifinals: focused and united). Now, fans of Iker I can understand why they would be upset.

      Another thing, how can anyone not like Mourinho?? He is hilarious, I seriously hope someone is writing a book with all of his best quotes.

  6. Jenny May 7, 2013 at 11:56 pm #

    This is what I would say to Mourinho:

    The players have not got respect in return from him. He demands what he is not willing to give. He has come within inches of destroying this team.

    His record is pretty crap. One Liga and a domestic cup? Congrats.

    Mourinho routinely hangs his players out, to dry. He blames members of the team, by name, for mistakes. It’s never him. He does his “the coach is always to blame…” spiel and then he names players he feels “don’t have heart.”

    There is no unity – and it has nothing to do with benching. If you believe the Spanish press no one has got along since early in the 2011-12 season. The players have been sucking this up for 18 months in their efforts to get along and make it work.

    At this point, no one is on speaking terms with him. This is an indictment of how badly he’s handled the situation.

    He bitches about the press? Stop giving them shit to write about. Public Relations 101.

    Comparing himself to coaches of the past was the last straw. Most of them completely outclassed him. if he thinks this institution won’t survive him, he has another thing coming.

    There are few innocents in this story, but his players despise him, and his nauseating press antics for a reason: they’re too dignified.

    He’s paid millions of dollars to represent this club, he’s done a crap job, and now he wants to get out of the 20 million release clause by behaving really, really badly in the hopes they sack him.

    I’m surprised Chelsea will have him back.

    • Jenny May 7, 2013 at 11:58 pm #

      I notice a tumblr meme of: “He succeeded where others failed!”

      Yeah. True to an extent in the very recent past. BUT – no need to leave such a stink. The two are not related. It was unnecessary.

    • Jana May 8, 2013 at 12:15 am #

      I’m really curious to see where this all goes as the season comes to an end. Some(one), not sure who, is on a very fast downhill spiral at RM.

      Something’s on a roll, I just don’t know what, you know?

    • headbandsandheartbreak May 8, 2013 at 12:53 am #

      “The players have been sucking this up for 18 months in their efforts to get along and make it work. At this point, no one is on speaking terms with him. This is an indictment of how badly he’s handled the situation.”

      Why are you presenting this as fact? It’s just supposition on your part and comes off just as sensationalist as the press hacks. You cannot categorically say that.

      You know, I saw on your blog that that you posted a picture of him walking away from a group of players and said by analyzing their body language that there’s a definite distance between the coach and players. Of course there is. He’s walking away! I mean, I have to say that’s some Goal.com style stuff right there. He always walks around the pitch during training! There’s also eleventy billion pictures of him standing right next to players too, but I guess that wouldn’t prove your theory, right? To read into these situations and start promoting it as gospel is stirring the pot, IMHO. It’s pretty obvious he doesn’t get along with some of his players from their comments, but there’s plenty of them who seem to have a good relationship with him.

      His record is just one liga and a domestic cup? Not exactly. Under Mou, we’ve had The first Liga win since 2007-2008, the first Supercopa since 2008, the first Copa Del Rey since 1992-93 (and hopefully our second soon). 3 Champions League semifinals in 3 years when we haven’t had a sniff at it in ages. Last season we broke a number of records: 100 points in a single season, 121 goals scored, a goal difference of +89, 16 away wins, and 32 overall wins. Not to mention how wonderfully some of our players have bloomed under him. He’s damn good at bringing out their natural talents. Do you really think we could have done that if the players weren’t on speaking terms with Mou and he was a such a shit coach? Doubtful. C’mon give credit where credit is due. I find it so interesting that many of the people who were calling him a miracle worker last year and the best thing that ever happened to us are baying for his blood this season. A bunch of fucking pirhanas, the lot of them. This was a shit season, make no mistake about that, but the blame cannot be solely put on him – that’s ridiculous. Barca had a relatively crap season as well. Tell me, cules, is everyone going full metal dramatic all up in your ‘hood or are they just hunkering down to wait it out?

      “There are few innocents in this story, but his players despise him, and his nauseating press antics for a reason: they’re too dignified.”

      I think you’re right that there are few innocents in this story. No situation is one sided. Again, I’m pretty sure not all his players ‘despise him’ and as for them being ‘too dignified’, I think you’re projecting a lot onto a bunch of 20-something athletes. They’re not some holier than thou noble warriors. They’re a bunch of dudes. There’s some good ones and some bad ones. Some of them act like immature douchebags at times. What makes you think that doesn’t carry over into their professional lives? You think he’s the only one who can throw a petulant snit? I highly doubt it.

      Look, I don’t always agree with what Mou says or how he handles things but this sort of drama llama stuff really rubs me the wrong way. From him, from the players, from the fans.

      Me, I’m just going to sit back, mix a cocktail and let the chips fall where they may. I’m not going anywhere. I’m sticking by the team even though I’m annoyed as fuck and exhausted by all the drama. I’m just waiting it out without making a big deal, articulating sweeping pronouncements or doing tons of finger pointing. Everyone has a hand in making a clusterfuck. Everyone. Everyone could behave better (including the fans). Everyone could be less quick to judge.

      It wouldn’t be Madrid without the drama, true, but I wouldn’t mind a bit of boredom right about now. The end of the season can’t come quick enough. I need a break from the whole balagan.

      • Jenny May 8, 2013 at 1:09 am #

        My blog post was a joke, and presented as such.

        • mygypsyspirit May 8, 2013 at 6:55 am #

          Your blog post was not presented as such. Sure, the parts about Fabio needing highlights were, but anything that had to do with Mourinho and the team was not. A fan that is not “in the know” as you present yourself to be would have no idea. That fan would then spread this “knowledge” much the way the Spanish press does. Vicious cycle

          • Jenny May 8, 2013 at 12:15 pm #

            Oh dear. My humour needs work.

          • Jenny May 8, 2013 at 12:35 pm #

            I don’t know you from LJ? Who are you? I mean: what’s your username?

            • mygypsyspirit May 8, 2013 at 12:55 pm #

              I’m not a member of your community. The post was public. I rarely jump on LJ and I can’t access it at work right now. I don’t know what my username is off the top of my head

              • Jenny May 8, 2013 at 1:05 pm #

                No that’s fine.I was just curious. I couldn’t remember a member. Of course most of my readers are from outside.

      • Jenny May 8, 2013 at 1:25 am #

        As for not being on speaking terms – CR7 confirmed he didn’t address the players after Dortmund – it was an offhand comment that came out in a longer question. He didn’t mean to reveal it, but he did. Too busy being cut off by ITV – which made me cackle like an old witch – because guess what Mou? Your grandiose, self-important announcement after your team ALMOST made it wasn’t as important as the sponsors and the ads – not even to your beloved English journalists. He also didn’t give a half-time talk against Valladolid and let Karanka do it.

        That doesn’t sound to me like a coach on great terms with his players, frankly.

        His players have behaved better in public than he has. You’ll never get Iker comparing himself to past greats (with whom he doesn’t measure up – except…he probably does. He has two CLs, two Euro cups and a World Cup).

        I’ve noticed A VERY DiSTURBING TREND (evident in your response) that there are two sides to this and WE HAVE TO CHOOSE A SIDE. I don’t have to choose a side. I refuse to. Pepe’s comment was a ridiculous provocation, as an example. Mourinho’s press conference was shameful.

        But I was talking about Mourinho, not Pepe. I also am not comfortable with the received wisdom that the players are doing the leaking. We have staff, the board, ex-board members, ex-staff, janitors, ball-boys – moving in and out. We have Valdano – the person we know he suspects based on his caustic response to one of his comments.

        We assume most things anyway. Most people (you included, apparently) assume the players are behaving badly and leaking – that is pure assumption because we can’t be certain they are the direct sources of the leaks. I assume (on much better evidence) they are not on speaking terms with the boss who is no longer talking to them in the locker room.

        • headbandsandheartbreak May 8, 2013 at 8:22 am #

          “I’ve noticed A VERY DiSTURBING TREND (evident in your response) that there are two sides to this and WE HAVE TO CHOOSE A SIDE.”

          Um, no actually. I’m definitely saying there are two sides (there always is) but I never said we had to take a side. In fact I said, I’m sitting back and watching because when it’s done, I’m not going anywhere. I’m staying right here. I don’t think we have to choose sides. I never said that. In fact, I’d prefer everyone CALM THE FUCK DOWN, which I said repeatedly. I also said that EVERYONE had a hand in making this mess. Not seeing how that means “ZOMG! WE HAVE TO CHOOSE A SIDE!”

          Disturbing? Calling for sanity, an end to rampant speculation and ridiculous posturing? Oooookay. And as for someone choosing a side? Seems pretty clear that you’re doing that. You just came to my blog and posted a scathing rant on Mourinho. How do you see that as not choosing a side?!

          “Most people (you included, apparently) assume the players are behaving badly and leaking”

          Actually, that’s not it at all. (I think many people have been guilty of seeding the media) I’m just saying they are not saints. On re-reading, I guess I wasn’t clear (although I did say “What makes you think it doesn’t carry over into their professional lives?” which I thought was pretty specific) I wasn’t necessarily talking about their club activities when I said that some of them could act like immature douchebags. So fair enough, that may have been confusing (again, not sure why) but the way you were talking about them like some sort of pure unsullied knights freaked me out. These are guys who can get themselves busted for speeding and prancing around with underage hookers (and that’s just Benz). They’re not perfect. Neither is Mourinho. You just came off like you were pulling the usual “Mou/Devil, Players/Angels” paradigm which is complete crap. Who was leaking is a moot point by now. Personally, I think EVERYONE is behaving badly. Everyone involved should not be airing their dirty laundry in public.

          “I assume (on much better evidence) they are not on speaking terms with the boss who is no longer talking to them in the locker room.”

          Sigh. I give up. I just fucking give up. You’re trying to say because of those two incidents in the past week or so that came after a super rough time that all 20+ players are on bad terms with him? That’s the “better evidence?” Have you ever had 20+ people in a room at work and tried to get them to agree on something? Because I rarely have (with the exception of “Who wants pizza?” or “Should we close the day after Christmas?” but nothing as complex as methodology, how to run the business, etc.). Stop making blanket statements. Things aren’t black and white. Things dealing with people and personalities rarely are. Things turn on a dime. Just like they did today. Last night, when I went to sleep I was sure that Mou would go to Chelsea. This morning, Sir Alex retired. The plot thickens.

          It’s not that I’m anti-player because I’m not, but I feel that people are just going after Mou hammer and tongs without acknowledging the good things he did for this team. When I see rants like the one you laid out here, it makes me want to stick up for him. Again, the same folks who were giving him a tongue bath last year are acting like he’s Lucifer now. It’s unreal. Do these people not have enough drama in their lives without creating more? They can have some of mine if they want! 😉

          Re-read your blog post and nope, still doesn’t come off as presented like a joke (except as mygypsyspirit noted, the part about Fabio’s highlights – which DAMN, I totes agree on that one). Your rant here only seems to back the ‘not a joke’ thing up.

          And, of course, no acknowledgement that he did more than bring us “one liga and a domestic cup” but then again I didn’t expect any. Most of the ranters these days conveniently forget that stuff.

          Here’s my issue with all this drama crap that’s swirling around the team:

          People presenting their pet theories as gospel
          People assuming one side or the other of the equation is perfect and blameless (when there is this much money/power involved EVERYONE is a player in the politics of an organization)
          People not giving credit for the good stuff any of the parties involved have accomplished (whether it be Iker, Mou, DLo, Sergio or someone else)
          People assuming that clearly slanted media reports are fact (no matter who the report favors)
          People not seeming to get how strategically both Mou, the players and other stake holders seem to be using the press. Does no one see how calculated the sometimes ‘off hand’ remarks can be?

          I’m just sick and tired of all the drama. I love my team and my coach even when I don’t agree with how they’re handling things. I’d prefer that they would just join hands and sing Kumbaya but I’m grown up enough to realize that you can’t put that much money, power, ego and large personalities in one organization and not get fireworks. It’s what makes the team great and also creates its downfall. It’s like a bloody Shakespearean drama all up in there.

          If anything, I’m urging caution and moderation. Less finger pointing, more level heads and solutions. Ranting doesn’t do shit to solve our problems. In fact, our rants especially won’t solve anything except to divide the fanbase. When the season is over, there will be movement and then we’ll pick up the pieces. We’ll see what we have left and rebuild. See, that’s why all this infighting is bullshit because in the end, it doesn’t matter who leaves or stays. Real Madrid is going to continue.

          • Anonymous May 8, 2013 at 10:46 am #

            Woah, that is probably the longest comment I have ever seen on INTERNET let alone on this blog, anyways, I personally feel that both of the parties involved here in the argument are just trying to display their very well versed perspective of the drama that is going in at the Capital Club, sometimes though coming off a bit harsh to the other person even though they aren’t actually meaning it.

            So, yeah, I guess we can take a chill pill here or wait, we have a game tonight rite?, God, this game couldn’t have come at a better time, no one’s at fault over here, or maybe that is just my opinion, I just would like the fan base to take all the things in the right jist and spirit and none personally as at the end of the day we are all here commenting, or say arguing in this case, for the love of Madrid, ey?

            Hala Madrid
            Cheers to both Jenny and Lozil here, passionate ladies, you deserve a WONDERFUL game from our boys.

          • Jenny May 8, 2013 at 12:16 pm #

            I’m not reading this. It’s too long.

            I feel personally attacked. And I will not be visiting again. I feel nauseous. My hands are shaking uncontrollably.

            Good bye.

            • Jenny May 8, 2013 at 12:18 pm #

              I have enough stress in my life not to be personally attacked and to be made to feel as though I have to vomit.

              I’m shaking so badly I can’t even see straight.THis entire converwsation gavge me nightmares last night. I’m sick ofbeing attacked online no mateter whwere I go.,

              • headbandsandheartbreak May 8, 2013 at 12:30 pm #

                Jenny – You’re a good person and I like you a lot, but lord almighty, you need to calm down. This conversation is nothing in the scope of the universe. It’s nothing to vomit, shake or have nightmares about. Neither is a team getting knocked out of the Champions League. We’re on the internet, discussing a sport – a game played by multimillionaires who don’t know we exist except in the broadest of terms. This is not life or death shit no matter how much we love our teams. Take a deep breath and step away from the keyboard for awhile, for your own health. None of this should be stressing you out like this. I don’t take this personally and I’m sorry you do.

                I always wish the best for you but I just can’t with this sort of drama. Take good care of yourself and feel better.

                • Jenny May 8, 2013 at 2:16 pm #

                  I wrote to you, in confidence. You responded in the open.

                  I don’t like that, I have to say.

                  • headbandsandheartbreak May 8, 2013 at 2:22 pm #

                    What are you talking about? I’ve only responded to comments from you on this blog. I haven’t received any emails from you at the HB & HB account. When and where did you write to me? I’ve been in meetings the bulk of the day but I’ve been checking emails on my phone. If you emailed me there, I would have received it.

                    • Jenny May 8, 2013 at 2:49 pm #

                      Over LJ

                      Ignore it, I was hysterical.

                      I am quite ice-cold now,which is always best.

                    • headbandsandheartbreak May 8, 2013 at 2:57 pm #

                      I’m at work and can’t log into LJ. So I haven’t read anything you sent to me and won’t be able to until I get home which will be about 11:30 PM tonight. So my comments are based only on what you’ve posted here, not on anything you said ‘in confidence ‘to me. I’d appreciate not being accused of such a thing. That kind of dick move is not my style. I’m glad you’re feeling more in control now.

            • headbandsandheartbreak May 8, 2013 at 12:25 pm #

              Seriously? How can you feel personally attacked if you didn’t read it?! If you had read it, you would notice that I talked about the entire fandom in general through most of it.

              Listen, If you put your view point out there, you have to be prepared to have it challenged. We don’t agree on the subject, that much is clear but don’t expect me to take a rant and sit still. You went at me point by point, why do I not get to reply? I’m not feeling personally attacked because you don’t agree with me. ::shaking my head:: But okay, if you want to paint me as a bully, so be it. There’s nothing I can do about it. But I have to say, if you are throwing a strong opinion out there, you have to be prepared for the strong opinions of others to come right back at you.

          • Casey May 8, 2013 at 1:09 pm #

            Last piece Was just-perfect.

    • Allison May 9, 2013 at 10:06 am #

      Jenny, I agree with you. Sir Bobby Charleton stated that Mourinho was not considered for the Man United job because of his antics. He may be a good coach but he is an immature child at interpersonal relationships.

      • headbandsandheartbreak May 9, 2013 at 12:02 pm #

        Then how do you explain the warmth and high regard almost all his former players hold him in? They gush over him so he can’t be THAT crap at interpersonal relationships. In fact, that’s one thing that is regularly mentioned in articles.

        • Allison May 9, 2013 at 2:28 pm #

          I can’t explain it. Admittedly, I’ve only been following football for a few years, but all I’ve seen of Mou in that time is drama, drama, drama. I really don’t understand why some people love him. *shrug*

  7. Ana May 8, 2013 at 4:45 am #

    I just want it all to stop!! (rocks gently in the corner in fetal position, surrounded by discarded chocolate wrappers…..)

    • Mandi May 8, 2013 at 4:59 am #

      Seconded.

    • Mehreh May 8, 2013 at 11:23 am #

      add wine bottles, cigarette butts and photos of xabi pre and post beard and you have me.

  8. Dr. Heidi May 8, 2013 at 10:36 am #

    If I may just render an opinion from a very uninformed perspective…I am not a rabid fan of the sport, or any team in particular (even though I have a soft spot for one team, which is not RM)…..I have a good sense regarding people, and from the first match I ever saw, I just didn’t have a good feeling about Mou. I don’t have anything to base it on except my own intuition….and anything I know about any coaches, players, or team presidents, I learned here. I recall discussions about the supposed rift between Mou, Iker and Ramos, and comments that Sara publiclyrevealed on some news show, but being on this side of the pond, I don’t feel exposed to much valid information. All I can go on is my gut, and Mou just turns me off completely. There’s just something about that man that makes me uncomfortable. Again, I know, who cares what I think, but honestly, Mou really taints my feelings toward RM. I know the press has vilified Mou, but nobody can win every game. Are those coaches and managers for the teams at the bottom of the field being crucified with the same vigor? That’s a question I have no answer to, as I don’t know, nor have much information to base it on……I suppose that the major clubs, like RM, have very high expectations of the team and their performance, but again, expectations have to be realistic. Yeah, the Spanish teams have had some challenges this year from what I can gather, but I still think they’re amazingly talented. I know I said a lot without saying much of anything, but I thank all of you for providing great insight on the game as you do. It helps me to understand more about it, although there is so much more I need to learn.

  9. your- the -ozi- to-my- khedira May 8, 2013 at 10:48 am #

    You have a great blog ! Awesome stuff . I’ve always wanted to start my own but with getting my PHD and ish I haven’t found time .

    Every club has drama here and there . But not all air their grievances to the public , but that’s besides the point … Mou is leaving , his made it pretty clear . But could all of “this” been prevented ? Yes , if the fans etc had stuck by Mou and not whistled etc when things were going wrong , a lot of this could have been avoided …

    I trust Mou and his decisions , I was upset when he dropped Iker , but I understood it was nothing personal , just business … Same with his comments about Pepe and Iker .

    On that note , when Iker wasn’t performing , neither was Ramos etc so I felt he should have set a precedent with the entire team based on “performance” .

    Everyone is at fault here … Everyone needs to stop with the Iker comments now , its getting as old as the Messi Ronaldo comparisons … Iker is a player like any other , and will be picked based on performance . End of .

    Now the point of my comment : Mou has done more than I could have hoped for ( hopefully Pep will do the same) , but I’m afraid this “partnership” has run its course , its time to move on now …

    Mou has always been a controversial figure , and “these” types of comments are what I’ve always loved and hated him for . But unlike many Mou can walk the walk and talk the talk . That being said , what matters more than anyone is Real Madrid (the club) and that’s what I hope Mou , Sergio and Pepe kept in mind during all they’re antics .

    Now Sergio get fit , let’s finish the season unbeaten at home and let’s win the Copa del Rey !

    • razzyt May 8, 2013 at 12:00 pm #

      ARGH I know how you feel . I’m doing my Masters in psychology , and I hardy have time for anything .

      I enjoyed reading your comment , all I can say is I hope ur “hopes” for Pep are good (sorry tendencies of a Bayern fan)

      Mou is probably leaving , but like you said all of that is besides the point . For me the point is showing the players the respect they deserve , especially Iker … He’s kept it classy and kept his um-issues ( publically) to a minimum … So I think out of respect for Iker , Mou could/should do the same .That’s all.

    • mygypsyspirit May 8, 2013 at 12:16 pm #

      thank you

  10. mygypsyspirit May 8, 2013 at 12:32 pm #

    At this point I feel like anything I say is just going to be taken the wrong way by all involved. I don’t think that anyone is innocent in this. And I mean no one. Not Mourinho, not Iker, not Sergio, not Pepe.

    In the end no one is bigger than the club. That goes for our beloved capi as much as it goes for the rest. Iker is not an institution. The club is an institution. Legend? Quite possibly. That’s impossible to deny. But I do feel some of his “innocent remarks” have been quite snide. With that said, I think that Mourinho could have handled things a lot differently.

    I had a very long post to back up Lozil here (and I do back her 100%) but I feel the argument has run it’s course. There is nothing I can say that has not already been said. I am not taking sides. I’m not taking sides between any fans, any players, any coaches… I am taking the side of Los Blancos. I make no apologies for thinking that what has been best for Los Blancos can be construed as being on “Mou’s side.” Because believe me, there are times (eye poke anyone?) that I have felt he has not had the team’s best interest in mind.

    In the end, whether our coach is Mourinho or someone else; whether our centerbacks are Sergio and Pepe or Varane and Carvalho or whoever else; whether our keeper is Iker Casillas, Diego Lopez, Antonio Adan, or Jesus; whether our team remains the same or changes all 23 players tomorrow and gets relegated to segunda division, we should all be supporting this team. And sometimes (and I know I’m not alone in this) I get the feeling that if certain players or coaches were to leave, so would a lot of fans. Some here included. I hope I’m wrong.

    Hala Madrid

    • mygypsyspirit May 8, 2013 at 1:18 pm #

      I will add one thing. I find it interesting that the one person who would probably offer an honest, yet classy, opinion on all of this drama is the one person that no one ever considers. And I doubt he is asked about the drama either, because they know that if he says anything then the theories of everyone would be blown out of the water.

      Who is that one person?

      Karanka

      • Dr. Heidi May 8, 2013 at 1:23 pm #

        probably not a good idea to go behind your boss’ back….

        • mygypsyspirit May 8, 2013 at 1:28 pm #

          But he’s not asked the questions… That’s not going behind your boss’ back at all.

          Additionally, Karanka played for Madrid from 1997 to 2002. Granted, he returned in 2010 to manage, but he loves the club. He would be honest in a very classy manner. That is his personality

          • Dr. Heidi May 8, 2013 at 3:34 pm #

            Since I don’t know any of the history, I am truly replying from a very naive level……

            • mygypsyspirit May 8, 2013 at 3:36 pm #

              And I’m not challenging you. I’m simply letting you know

    • Luz May 8, 2013 at 2:55 pm #

      Totally agree.

      I’ve been reading about this soap opera on other Real Madrid blogs as well and what I really, really dislike about this whole mess is the fact that it divideds the fans and turns them/us against each other. Fans have labelled each other as Mourinhonistas, Ikernistas and so forth – telling each other that they are not true Madridistas. Instead we should pull together and take a deep breath and focus on the one thing that we all can agree on – football and support the Club – the institutions that is Real Madrid.

      I don’t like what is going on at the moment in our beloved club – to say the least and I think that every party(Mourinho, Iker, Pepe, Sergio…) is responsible for this whole mess which has gotten out of hand. They all should stop communticating through the press but speak directly with each other – every disagreement/problem should stay inside the club and get solved there. And regarding talking to press: if you don’t have anything nice to say – than say nothing at all!

      I don’t know about you guys, but Real Madrid is usually my happy place and I really need something positive to happen tonight (I got some very bad news today), so I hope that the boys pull together as a team and beat Malaga.
      Less drama – more football, pls.
      Hala Madrid!

    • manie May 9, 2013 at 11:35 pm #

      I love your comment and Lozil’s post. Mou’s statements about no one being above the club were right. I agree with you 10000000%, the club will go on, though hopefully with less politicking by the players, Iker included.

      Brooks Peck posted that chart from the economist of the winningest (rich) teams in the last twenty years on his blog, and it’s, like, so sad to see Madrid with more managers than any other team with fewer trophies to show for all the drama.

  11. Dr. Heidi May 8, 2013 at 1:39 pm #

    Someone posted this on Tumblr, and it really sheds light on this whole discussion…

    I’ll never forget those words from mourinho :

    ” I’ll come out early, whistle at me but don’t whistle the players, support them “

    • headbandsandheartbreak May 8, 2013 at 1:43 pm #

      ::shrugs:: Yep. That just happened a few months ago. No one seems to remember.

      • mygypsyspirit May 8, 2013 at 1:58 pm #

        This is why I love him

        • headbandsandheartbreak May 8, 2013 at 2:03 pm #

          I thought it was an important gesture. Now everything has gone all batshit and it’s a bummer.

          • mygypsyspirit May 8, 2013 at 2:50 pm #

            Very important. This is why I don’t buy the “He doesn’t stick up for his players”

    • Mehreh May 8, 2013 at 2:05 pm #

      ❤ for remembering that. i want to go into suspended animation until this is all over. or be drunk, i have not yet decided.

  12. Dr. Heidi May 8, 2013 at 3:32 pm #

    I’m so confused…..he stands for his players, he throws them under the bus……*getting whiplash from all this drama*

    • Dr. Heidi May 8, 2013 at 3:36 pm #

      I get my warm fuzzies from my love for Sergio, so that’s where I’m staying…..

      • mygypsyspirit May 8, 2013 at 3:43 pm #

        Hey… We all have our guy. I mean, sometimes I get warm fuzzies from Steven Gerrard and I’m very much NOT a Liverpool fan

    • mygypsyspirit May 8, 2013 at 3:38 pm #

      Or he simply is honest and says what he thinks at the time

      • Katie Ann May 8, 2013 at 5:52 pm #

        I think he’s very honest, but I have to wonder about a couple of things that should be taken into consideration… 1) His remarks can be a lot more blunt in translation. A more proficient Spanish speaker could verify that, maybe, but I know when I read it in Spanish and then read an English translation I sometimes think that. 2) The fact that it’s so public gets people. Like, it feels the way being called out by a teacher in front of the whole class felt, and you don’t want players you idolize to feel that way. Maybe. Those are just thoughts I have. I’m returning to not thinking now.

        • mygypsyspirit May 8, 2013 at 6:42 pm #

          I think people don’t really understand that other countries are much more blunt than the English speaking countries are. It’s just how they are. They don’t dance around issues.

          I get called out for this often. I often tell people that I don’t give false compliments. I don’t tell you that we’re fine if we’re not. I tell you my problem. Maybe it’s the marine in me…

  13. jellyace May 8, 2013 at 3:43 pm #

    On other very serious matters, Ozil had a haircut.

    • headbandsandheartbreak May 8, 2013 at 3:46 pm #

      Yeah, it’s cute – you can see it in the piccies above. I still want long hair Mesut back but I know I’m in the minority.

      • Dr. Heidi May 8, 2013 at 10:41 pm #

        You and jellyace are the undisputed queens of the segue! 🙂

  14. MissLadya May 9, 2013 at 1:56 pm #

    (Been away for a while. Came back and wooooo boy, what a kerfuffle!)

    I’m just gonna keep my eye on the bigger picture: I’ve got my health, a house, a loving family and gaggle of friends, and da best pets in da world! (Well … my goldfish could be a BIT more awesome. They’re just unmotivated.) As much as I love football, once the match is over and I steer clear of all the Internet hubbub, it holds no dominant place in my life, which is probably why all this drama, while overbearing and even at times upsetting, doesn’t leave a lasting impression on me. Once I’ve posted this I’m gonna try to make a quiche for the first time! Mother’s day is coming up and I’m in charge of dinner time. Am not gonna stew over Mou v Iker, or Mou v Media, while I’m trying out a new curry goat recipe 🙂

    I admit that I have no true-blue club allegiance; that I only started following Real Madrid because of Samisut. Club football, and all its mercurial politics, has always been a big turn-off for me, to be honest. For every beautiful moment of football there just always seems to be two or three ugly moments of in-fighting or scandal, so I knew to come into this with a measure of distance. Not that I am completely unaffected by things, but I guess, compared to comments other people leave behind, I’m not heavily invested enough. And I’m glad for that. Guess the only words of sympathy/encouragement I can share is that this isn’t the end of the world for any of the parties involved.

    If you’re devoted to the club, Real Madrid won’t be crumbling anytime soon. This isn’t tainting the legacy of Los Blancos. Players and coaches come and go, as do good times and bad times. The club itself remains, and it’s too powerful to be brought down by a handful of individuals.

    If you firmly support Mourinho, you know he is still considered one of the best coaches in the world. If he leaves this summer there will be several clubs clamoring to sign him. He has always been controversial figure, and nothing he does surprises me anymore. He’s like the Lady Gaga of football. (Really, I NEVER understood why everyone went mental when she wore that meat dress to the awards. It’s Lady Gaga: the only person in the world who’s managed to take the unexpected and make it boringly predictable.)

    It’s been a trying season, and I’m afraid it looks as though this is going to be an ugly end to cap it off, in the worst case scenario. But we’ll be fine, guys. No one’s coming out of this completely unscathed, but they’ll all just pick up and go on with things. Whomever you support, they’ll pull through. You just got to weather it out.

    Peace quiche 🙂

  15. la-la May 10, 2013 at 7:25 pm #

    And thats why i stopped posting here.

    • headbandsandheartbreak May 11, 2013 at 12:23 am #

      I’m really sorry to hear that, la-la. And I’m even sorrier that the last time you posted someone was rude and insulted you for no good reason. If it’s any consolation, I called the person on it.

      • la-la May 11, 2013 at 9:50 am #

        Did they? I didnt even notice. I havent been here for a while and when i read through these comments it made my heart hurt. isnt this supposed to be fun? I have enough crazy work and family stress to want to seek out more of it in my downtime. i guess im really just here for the fashion crimes, kids n puppies. I didnt mean my comment to be a reflection on you tho Lozil, you’re ace x

        • headbandsandheartbreak May 11, 2013 at 11:51 am #

          So are you. x That’s why I was so sad to read your comment. This whole episode upset me too, but one of the things I’ve said here since day one is if you’re going to put out strong opinions, be prepared to get ’em back. Anyone who knows me in real life will tell you that I don’t back down to anyone. Perhaps a flaw, perhaps a strength – depends on the situation, I guess. 😉

          And yes, it’s supposed to be fun. I’ll endeavor to bring 100% more bebes, frankencoats and puppies and 100% less vitriol laced commentary in the future. 🙂

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